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Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 05:58 pm
by merciersj
So I am a bit new to this and I just got some full sheets that I ordered from the shop (so pretty!). I was wondering from a collection perspective if it is better to keep the full sheets or to take one sport and one common from the sheet and trade the rest into the GCTS? Is there a list of what is available to get through GCTS right now? I saw the list of the stamp trade-in ratios but I didn't see the catalogue of what you can purchase with your GCTS stamps.

Thank you in advance for the help!

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 06:17 pm
by phalarope
merciersj wrote:So I am a bit new to this and I just got some full sheets that I ordered from the shop (so pretty!). I was wondering from a collection perspective if it is better to keep the full sheets or to take one sport and one common from the sheet and trade the rest into the GCTS? Is there a list of what is available to get through GCTS right now? I saw the list of the stamp trade-in ratios but I didn't see the catalogue of what you can purchase with your GCTS stamps.

Thank you in advance for the help!

Nooooooo!

OK, I was away for a moment, but I'm back now.

Personally, I wouldn't break a sheet for that reason, but on the other hand I wind up with lots of duplicates from multiple Season Tickets, so have plenty to trade in for GCTS. I only buy a sheet to break if I haven't gotten the sport by the time the stamp has been marked for withdrawal (end of the year for definitives and Hogswatch).

You can find what's on offer for GCTS on the Emporium site under the Stamps menu (Green Cabbage Trading Stamps) at the lower right of the drop-down menu. At present there are 3 items on offer: 2 sheets and the Golden Cabbage.

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 06:49 pm
by Frank the Younger
merciersj wrote:So I am a bit new to this and I just got some full sheets that I ordered from the shop (so pretty!). I was wondering from a collection perspective if it is better to keep the full sheets or to take one sport and one common from the sheet and trade the rest into the GCTS? Is there a list of what is available to get through GCTS right now? I saw the list of the stamp trade-in ratios but I didn't see the catalogue of what you can purchase with your GCTS stamps.

Thank you in advance for the help!


Apart from what phalarope said there is also the question 'can you afford to collect sheets''? My first answer is no but I have always have. So really the answer is yes whatever my wife says. :-)
If you can afford to collect sheets than don't break them otherwise why not.

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 06:52 pm
by merciersj
phalarope wrote:
merciersj wrote:So I am a bit new to this and I just got some full sheets that I ordered from the shop (so pretty!). I was wondering from a collection perspective if it is better to keep the full sheets or to take one sport and one common from the sheet and trade the rest into the GCTS? Is there a list of what is available to get through GCTS right now? I saw the list of the stamp trade-in ratios but I didn't see the catalogue of what you can purchase with your GCTS stamps.

Thank you in advance for the help!

Nooooooo!

OK, I was away for a moment, but I'm back now.

Personally, I wouldn't break a sheet for that reason, but on the other hand I wind up with lots of duplicates from multiple Season Tickets, so have plenty to trade in for GCTS. I only buy a sheet to break if I haven't gotten the sport by the time the stamp has been marked for withdrawal (end of the year for definitives and Hogswatch).

You can find what's on offer for GCTS on the Emporium site under the Stamps menu (Green Cabbage Trading Stamps) at the lower right of the drop-down menu. At present there are 3 items on offer: 2 sheets and the Golden Cabbage.


Haha thank you for the advice. I have 3 season tickets right now so maybe I'll hold off on breaking the sheets like you suggested, seems a shame to separate them!

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 07:11 pm
by merciersj
Frank the Younger wrote:
merciersj wrote:So I am a bit new to this and I just got some full sheets that I ordered from the shop (so pretty!). I was wondering from a collection perspective if it is better to keep the full sheets or to take one sport and one common from the sheet and trade the rest into the GCTS? Is there a list of what is available to get through GCTS right now? I saw the list of the stamp trade-in ratios but I didn't see the catalogue of what you can purchase with your GCTS stamps.

Thank you in advance for the help!


Apart from what phalarope said there is also the question 'can you afford to collect sheets''? My first answer is no but I have always have. So really the answer is yes whatever my wife says. :-)
If you can afford to collect sheets than don't break them otherwise why not.


Oh this is a good point too! For giggles I added one of every sheet currently available at the store and it was almost 500 pound! I know this spans multiple years but it was still a bit of a shock to me. :shock:

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 07:56 pm
by steeljam
In terms of costs, you may find the article I wrote for the Stanley Howler Journal interesting.

One thing I didn't cover as it only occurred to me a few days ago is the cost of each sport.
So I did a quick and rough check which ignores multiple sports on a sheet and the triangles.
There were 264 sheets issued which had a sport: total cost of sheets £3,313.50.
I assumed the odds of pulling a sport is based on half the number of stamps on the sheet; so with a sheet of 24 stamps, you would have to buy 12 LBEs, or half number of stamps.
The 264 sheets had a total of 6,790 stamps.
Assuming that there are between 6 and 8 sports available at any time I calculate the cost of obtaining the sports would be [Cost of LBE] * [Total number of stamps] / 2 / [Number of sports available]
This comes to between £2,121 and £2,829.
If anyone has a better method of calculation I would love to see it.

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:31 pm
by Muba
steeljam wrote:In terms of costs, you may find the article I wrote for the Stanley Howler Journal interesting.

One thing I didn't cover as it only occurred to me a few days ago is the cost of each sport.
So I did a quick and rough check which ignores multiple sports on a sheet and the triangles.
There were 264 sheets issued which had a sport: total cost of sheets £3,313.50.
I assumed the odds of pulling a sport is based on half the number of stamps on the sheet; so with a sheet of 24 stamps, you would have to buy 12 LBEs, or half number of stamps.
The 264 sheets had a total of 6,790 stamps.
Assuming that there are between 6 and 8 sports available at any time I calculate the cost of obtaining the sports would be [Cost of LBE] * [Total number of stamps] / 2 / [Number of sports available]
This comes to between £2,121 and £2,829.
If anyone has a better method of calculation I would love to see it.


As good as any estimate; works for me.

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:32 am
by steeljam
I did wonder about dividing by the number of sports available as this doesn't take into account the possibility of getting the same sport more than once.
Also, it discounts the need to buy LBEs for the triangles.
All options turn out to be expensive.

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 04:53 pm
by Frank the Younger
Just say it costs lots. :)

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:26 pm
by Muba
Frank the Younger wrote:Just say it costs lots. :)


I can think of plenty of interests or activities that I can spend money on that are more nefarious, dangerous, dubious, barely legal, exposes oneself to the worst of the elements, pointless, worthless, or are just plain boring. I reckon we get value for money

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 09:58 am
by Frank the Younger
Muba wrote:
Frank the Younger wrote:Just say it costs lots. :)


I can think of plenty of interests or activities that I can spend money on that are more nefarious, dangerous, dubious, barely legal, exposes oneself to the worst of the elements, pointless, worthless, or are just plain boring. I reckon we get value for money


Well there is Bernard, who is not boring but I'm not sure about the rest. :D

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:40 am
by Grace Speaker
Frank the Younger wrote:
Muba wrote:
Frank the Younger wrote:Just say it costs lots. :)


I can think of plenty of interests or activities that I can spend money on that are more nefarious, dangerous, dubious, barely legal, exposes oneself to the worst of the elements, pointless, worthless, or are just plain boring. I reckon we get value for money


Well there is Bernard, who is not boring but I'm not sure about the rest. :D
:lol:

Re: Sheets vs GCTS + GCTS Catalogue?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 02:30 pm
by Librarians Apprentice
Oook!

I personally love the sheets for the borders - they sometimes sneak some fun little jokes there, accidental or deliberate*. And I feel that there's just something so... complete-ist about having a whole sheet whenever possible. Which is why I started that way. And also why I'm running out of room and get excited about 4-ring binders :lol:

* Did we ever establish if the "BONER" border of the League of Temperance stamp was deliberate, or happy happenstance?